Today's editorial got me to thinking....from a PR perspective, at what point can an organization's reputation in its community (either neutral or negative) impact the idea of charity or community service in the public's mind?
http://www.registerbee.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=DRB%2FMGArticle%2FDRB_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173352276754&path=%21news%21opinion
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Charity arises from confidence in the smallest form or the largest form. A kid gives his friend a candy bar because he wants to cement a friendship and perhaps he has another candy bar. And he likes the feeling he gets when his friend says thank-you. He has confidence that he can afford to do it and that his friend will be pleased.
People historically have supported our hospital because they were confident that good and wise people were running it for the community good. Many people gave what they could in terms of time or money or both. They were confident that their charity was good for the things they believed in. And it made them feel good about themselves to be helping others.
Now that our confidence in our hospital has been so brutally savaged by LifePoint, it is hard to imagine anyone feeling the same level of charity. When it comes to giving blood, the practical arguments for doing so would surely outweigh any charitable instincts.
The answer to an earlier question: Karl Stauber's last reported salary was $265,456, so I guess we are paying him more than that.
Where do I sign up for a job like this get paid $265,000.00 per year to spend money. WOW!
I have given several gallons of blood over the years. Yes Gallons! That is when it was for charity for our hospital. I sure lifepoint would love for everyone to give then they will not have to buy it. If the surplus was enough I sure they will gladly sell it. As for me not a drop unless Lifepoint whats to pay for it. I know donated blood cost money to get, test and store but I sure it's cheeper that buying it out right.
So life point put your money were your mouth is lets see some dollors for our hard grown BLOOD.
Precisely! They can pay for mine, too. Any charity exhibited toward these leeches is foolish.
I used to be able to give blood, but no more. The folks at the Blood Center cut off my giving....said they don't accept blood from low-hanging fruits.
Am I missing something. Low-hanging fruits at the Blood Bank????
Face it, you have to pay well these days to get people like Dr. Stauber. You clods make it sound like it's easy to give away money, and you are wrong. This man has his work cut out for him.
Y'all are getting off the subject. What if that mythical kid happened to be a Bank Boy? Would he give his friend a candy bar?
I love this blog, but what are the refs to low-hanging fruit?????? Isn't that an old term for poverty level workers you can hire for nothing?
Do your homework. Read the blog's archives and you'll get the picture.
Stauber was noted for bringing significant changes to his former foundation in Minnesota, one nearly twice the size of ours. His thrust was in using a single-focus approach to poverty in that service region. It would be interesting to know if he has such thoughts for Danville.
The more I read about this guy, the more I suspect our Bank Boys might be in for a few surprises.
Whoever you are, its bedtime for Bonzo. These bums that sold us down the river would NEVER hire anybody but a puppet. Go to sleep and quite blogging.
Isn't this site supposed to be about the hospital?
Let's just hope that LPNT sees it fit to maintain our own self-sufficient blood supply through the DRMC donor program. The quality that this program can supply far exceeds other available blood programs.
Anonymous said...
To the comments that many are afraid to speak this is a direct connection to RUTHless. She does not welcome those that bring a different views to the table, nor does she welcome disagreement. this is seen as naysaying or lack of loyalty. just look at her relationship with her nursing directors that she so proudly keeps saying she has fixed. if you agree with her and smile at her jokes and games you are rewarded. if you disagree or stand up for the real truths you are cast away. She is devisive. Her actions alone are causing infighting amongst her so called leaders. She hasn't built a team. She has created a group of those who fear her to the point that they publically kiss her butt and a group who have withdrawn to protect their own dignity. One can not lead by fear. Hitler did it and he eventually failed. Even her loyal followers are starting to see they have sold their souls to the devil. If you don't know what I am talking about just observe her every wednesday morning with her nurse leaders.
Are you talking about Ruth or the bank guys?
You wonder why people think your idiots.you don't want to give blood anymore because it would help lifepoint? How about the fact it helps your neighbors, your family, possibly you? don't let your anger and resentment cloud your vision. do what is right.
You are right, but could you maybe direct some of your sermons to what LifePoint is doing to us?
Taking our blood is symbolic of the way in which LifePoint is sucking the blood out of all of us who work so hard with so few associates--and sucking the blood from the community as best they can. They came here as blood-suckers, openly seeking low hanging fruit, and they'll get it any way they can.
Still, this tired and sick soul thinks you are right on your narrow point.
I bet the blood suckers do laugh that our poor old town is being asked to give our real blood as a matter of charity. As much as I despise everything LifePoint stands for, I'll still roll up my sleeve.
But they won't take blood from low hung fruits, remember?
You guys are really showing your ignorance when it comes to withholding blood donations to hurt Lifepoint. Withholding blood donations is hurting the patients that need the blood. Sure the hospital can buy blood from the Red Cross but that blood supply is not as safe as ours. Donated blood is always safer than bought blood. When you pay for blood you attact drug abusers, etc that run a much greater chance of having blood born pathogens such as HIV and hepatitis. What is you are in a wreck wouldn't you want the safest blood and to be assured that the blood you need is there?
Well, this conversation took some twists and turns...I didn't expect to hear about people withholding blood donations from DRMC out of hatred of LPNT.
My original point (or at least the thought behind it) was that, as more and more people turn their allegiance to hospitals outside our area (Annie Penn, Centra, Moses Cone), they would feel less allegiance to what was formerly viewed as "their" community hospital.
For the PR folks, that will be a huge uphill battle, in my opinion. It used to be a matter of pride to roll up your sleeves for the folks on the Lifemobile. What about now? Are they having to work harder to find willing donors? Sounds like it to me.
We need to be able to trust and believe in DRMC as an institution again. We all believe in our neighbors who are still working there, but the company has created quite a chasm between us.
SE: The editorial you cited was all about blood donations, so I think you leapt a little afield in the question you posed. Now that you have clarified things, how can there be any question about allegiance to DRMC--if we are all going elsewhere? Of course allegiance to DRMC is diluted, as it should be. They are not offering the services and the other place do offer them.
I admit this is a pretty cool site, but I came to this looking for hospital news.
Who's the new CEO---Knizley?
"SE: The editorial you cited was all about blood donations, so I think you leapt a little afield in the question you posed."
I see your point...perhaps you are right.
I see posts on here saying "I came here for hospital news"..."where's the hospital news"...but this is a really tangled situation. Hospital news is related to LPNT news...blood donor recruitment is related to DRMC's standing in the community...future health and community development issues are related to the foundation which, tracing backward, goes to the sale of the hospital.
It's hard to separate one from the other.
But thanks for keeping me honest. Some of my postings are caffeine-induced.
;-)
Do we know that our blood given here will not be taken elsewhere. We had reason to trust Danville Regional on that point, but is anyone watching LifePoint? Could they sell it off if they wanted to? I don't care what they SAY. I want to know if anyone is watching them?
If they wanted to seed trust into the community, why don't they just hire more nurses, and re-evaluate their employee rewards and compensation plans? Blood is very valuable, as is tissue, bone, etc.
Can't believe they'd solicit into the schools too.
Hope this wouldn't be an eye for an eye answer.
"If they wanted to seed trust into the community, why don't they just hire more nurses, and re-evaluate their employee rewards and compensation plans?"
Then the "O"'s would have to lower their mega bonuses.No way they'll do that.
The post raises a question we'd like answerd. Who watches what LifePoint does with the blood bank blood as well as the bone tissues, etc. Does someone keep up with this. We know these people lie and cheat, so surely they would steal unless someone is watching them.
Answers, please.
Of course no one is watching them. These are skilled professionals.
No way they'd lie , please ...I suspect they use the law firm of dewey, cheatum and howe.
"Does someone keep up with this?"
Just like traffic in mainland China
where "the yellow line is only a suggestion". (Which results in many accidents)
SE: Is something wrong with your sitemeter? I noticed that your weekly total went down instead of up, and that the total visits did not advance on the one occasion when I checked during the day. How does the sitemeter work?
One of the most frustrating things for a community is feeling like they are not being heard.
One of the most frustrating things for an educated community is not being heard and being told that we are low hanging fruit. It's very demeaning.
Positive, effective communication is a strength for productivity. Compassion is another.
If upper management could show that they are in tune now, it could be very benefitial. Along the chain of command though, there can be mischievious roadblocks to this. (Meddling know it alls drinking coffee and cracking jokes. They are in it all for their own glory, not a team player.)
Productivity is driven by emotions. Fear is one of the most difficult to manage.
Trust can only be earned, not enforced.
RE: Sitemeter
It's a web-based service (external), so I don't really have any control over it. I'll keep an eye on it and report problems if I see them.
Thanks for watching the stats though!
The sitemeter jumps around a whole lot as far as stats go. Could be an outside attempt to discredit the productivity that is happening here.
The blood donated at DRMC is only used for patients in our hospital. I am a lab employee and our program is very carefully monitored by our lab's medical director (who is not a Lifepoint executive). I think LifePoint recognizes the value of our community blood donor program and supports our efforts to keep a local blood supply.
If you have any questions about donating please call DRMC's donor center at 799-3743.
Thank for the word on the blood. We have decided to trust that program--at least until we hear that LifePoint has decided to "improve" it.
I agree. We need to support those parts of Danville Regional that are not being wrecked by Lifepoint.
So am I correct in saying that if I give one of my blood bank credit cards to someone, and they turn the card in, that person will not be billed for the blood? How does the program work now?
"So am I correct in saying that if I give one of my blood bank credit cards to someone, and they turn the card in, that person will not be billed for the blood?"
I believe that is correct, but please call the donor center and ask. The staff working there are very knowledgeable and are more than willing to answer any questions you may have.
We've heard from friends that lifepoint billed them 500$ for a danville life saving crew transport,DLSC is none profit sounds like the fraudulent charges that HCA/Lifepoint has been known for.
I've been told exactly the same thing and assumed it was a mix-up. But is it fraud? Good question for ASK DRMC
The hospital can only bill for the drug box , nothing else.
"I've been told", "I heard", "Someone said"...wouldn't it be great if we had fewer posts that included these phrases. I've found so many of them to be fraudulent or only a fourth correct. Sure would make the blog a lot more credible.
so would signing your name to the posts
Why would signing your name add much credibility? Each poster could make up a name-and probably would. How would that add any credibility?
I understand the point here, but when we've been lied to and spun and jerked upside down, I can't fault people for trying to get to the root of reports and rumors. This is a terrifying place to work right now, and I think some of you really do not know what it's like when your Lifepoint job is the only thing between you and economic disaster. I think there's room for raising these questions, and I hope it will continue.
I've been in a similar situation. Economic disaster is not in the hands of Lifepoint and Lifepoint's success. You are more talented than that.
You're entire well being cannot be put into the hands of a for-profit healthcare facility's success, unless you allow it.
They do not make choices regarding your economic well being. They only make economic decisions for themselves, just like you can only make economic decisions for yourself. The same goes for moral decisions, etc.
Sometimes we learn from good decisions made for us or by us, and then sometimes we learn from bad decisions the same. Everyone goes through it. The difference in becoming a successful person is whether we learn from the decisions, and how to handle them either now or in the future.
How sweet!
Well here is my concern about the blood issue. This reminds me of the situation with HCA doing healthcare for the prisons in Arkansa when Clinton was governor. It was later learned that as they went into the prisons, they solicited blood from the prisoners. Then the blood was sold to countries like Canada. Later there was an HIV breakout that they blamed on USA. Additionally, many prisoners were infected with Hepatitis. This was being discovered during the whitewater issue. It can be googled.
The Monica issue came up rapidly thereafter, and the blood issue was swept under the rug.
So see folks, here it is. It looks to me like for-profit healthcare has been a funding funnel for Presidential campaignes across the board. The biggest thing that bothers me is that the unnecessary proceedures that are done are at the expense of the rural communities that support them. I fear that these hospitals have had lots swept under the rug, and are hurting people for financial gain. The population in these areas are trusting, and maybe a little naive.
NOBODY wants to disclose it cause "What they don't know won't hurt them", and yet it does, and it continues. It is so very wrong.
Sure, there have been advances in safety measures with blood draw etc, but still "Is this proceedure trustable with Lifepoint?"
Don't take my word for it. Look it all up. Please continue to educate yourselves. I've been praying that I'm wrong. If I am, I apoligize to all that it may hurt or influence wrongly. This is why I challenge each and every one of you to look it up.
What kind of major catastrophe has happened lately to warrant the need for all of this blood right now anyway. We are having a nationwide blood push program right now! Did I miss an earthquake or something?
Sign me,
From Somerset
Dear music to my ears,
Don't you think that it would be fairer to let me know who you are?
Thanks for watching my back though.
You clearly know nothing about blood bank, collection and distribution regulations. All those words, so little meaning.
Already judgemental?
Have you looked it up?
Does red cross still do bone marrow registration with their blood solicitations? This could be a good thing! Do you know how many diseases could be treated and cured if this was regulated well and used productively?
Well, if its not regulated well, it could be harmful. Guess its the same with blood.
If only we could all be young and naive, and everything had a happy ending like in old movies, things would be easier.
Sometimes though, we grow up from the bobbie sox we once wore, and realize that we've made mistakes, and we learn from them. We've all been there before.
To "All those words, so little meaning." above...
Google is your friend.
http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/entry-detail.aspx?entryID=3732
I'm confused and I've been circling for answers. So it was HMA with the blad blood?
Sorry, bad blood?
Although, sometimes we don't try, we sprint off subject. It's just all so confusing.
I'm getting multiple messages. So how long was the contaminated blood circulated? and where? This could answer a lot of questions for me. The website above is very informational, and personally painful.
So, the Clinton administration called off the investigation on the contaminated blood (HIV and hepatitis)? The information hasn't been released to all the public yet?
Is this kind of blood still being used and circulated?
Looking back, and linking the information I found on the website about the "science" of it. I can recall an answer that I received from a doctor once. After asking him about his lies, which had seriously harmed my mother, his response was "It's all scientific trial and error." His answer had enraged me, that he would use my mother as his guinea pig-harming her! It sounded just like Hitler!
She lived past her prognosis, after getting her out of a Lifepoint Hospital. After she had started recovering, they gave her blood. (My father took her back to a Lifepoint Hospital-not understanding the threat) It was downhill from there.
Could it be that she got contaminated blood four years ago?
Is there still contaminated blood being circulated now?
It's no wonder some of the other countries are angry with USA, if this was done and intentionally covered up.
If the United States Government was involved in covering this up, this is deceitful! Wow, do we need new leadership or what!
You've convinced my family to stay out of the LifePoint blood centers. We all know you need to stockpile blood from your own sources for surgery. Is there any reason to think that THAT blood also is fraudulently booked and then sold or used elsewhere?
Everyone can research this. Everybody needs to. Everywhere.
Keep praying for answers.
Who were the originaters of HMA?
What is their history of integrity?
Anybody know their affiliations past and present?
Did they dissolve once?
In all fairness, (and I don't know the answer here), but it could be that one political party set the other one up. However, it is something to think about. Tainted blood could be a very dangerous weapon to have in an institutions' control. An organization could use it as a weapon in whatever way they wanted.
For instance, if they didn't like a particular sector of people. They could hurt them with it. I suppose it leaves many questions.
All decisions are a matter of trust, which of course is earned, not demanded or inflicted.
I suppose that each person has to make these decisions for themselves by seeking TRUTH.
Sometimes when people set up things to make money, they don't realize how many people it can hurt, and how badly the results may turn out.
Sometimes, the empires they build have a domino effect, and every chip that falls has either a large or small effect. But every chip is important, and their effects are important.
When one greedy person sees another prospering, it kind of gives them the same idea. When nothing is done about it or when they see no punishment, they see their own way to profit.
Like in a department store, if one employee steals, the others decide one of two things
a)to expose and correct
b)to jump on the train
Sometimes the pain of seeing the people you love the most jump on the train, hurts also.
So then, you have the pain of both effects. It's like the dominos are set up in a large circle, and they keep coming back around and hit you over and over again.
Lord, has this poor old town been robbed and robbed and robbed. Paper always is talking about "black youths" and showing pictures of African-Americans going to jail.
Whatever the black youths have robbed, it is NOTHING compared to
what this Davenport and that whole crowd has robbed from us. They rob us every time we wake up.
But when they put there picture in the paper, they always dressed up and smiling like possums.
Sign me Sick and Disgusted!
What an eloquent comment!
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