Sunday, November 11, 2007

Q&A - Hospitalists at DRMC

"Q&A: Doctors talk about Danville Regional's hospitalist program"
Danville Register & Bee Saturday, November 10, 2007

A national trend in hospital care is being expanded at Danville Regional Medical Center. Dr. Fran DeChurch was hired last week to start working at the hospital as the director of the hospitalist program.
Hospitalists are hospital-based doctors who care for patients while they are at the hospital, instead of a patient’s regular doctor. When the patient is released from the hospital, he or she returns to the care of the pre-admission doctor. DeChurch and Dr. Michael Caplan, a local physician who helped develop Danville Regional’shospitalist program, recently shed some light on the role of hospitalists in Danville and throughout the nation.

What is a hospitalist?
Caplan: Hospitalists are fully trained doctors who have completed medical school and residency training and graduated with degrees in internal medicine or family practice. Most, but not all, are young university-trained doctors who have recently completed and are very familiar with hospital-based care. Others are doctors who have been in traditional-based medical practices who decide to change to hospital-based care exclusively. They undergo additional training as hospitalistsoften in coordination with the companies that contract their services to hospitals around the nation.
DeChurch: Hospital medicine has become its own specialty. Programs are developing specifically for hospital medicine, much like geriatric medicine evolved as a specialty.
How many hospitalists does Danville Regional have?
DeChurch: With me, there will be four full-time hospitalists and eight to 10 part-time. We will be recruiting four more full-timehospitalists.
How did hospitalist programs begin? (DeChurch was actually in on the ground floor of hospitalist programs beginning in the U.S.)
DeChurch: When I finished my residency in 1990-91, the government was looking at how many hours interns could work. They saw there were going to be limits on the patient loads and hours on interns coming down the road, and wondered how they were going to handle all those patients.We developed a ‘chief service’ to take care of the unassigned patients. Lo and behold, that was the beginning of the hospitalists, although the term was not coined until the mid-1990s. It’s kind of neat to know I was in on the ground floor.
How did the hospitalist program begin at Danville Regional?
Caplan: The impetus for developing a hospitalist program started in early 2004 when a request was made from the medical staff to the administration of Danville Regional. A special committee was formed to research national hospitalist organizations and recommend companies through which these contract services could be provided. The conversion to a hospitalist-based care plan at the hospital was driven by a national trend that has existed for many years in other hospitals across the country as well as neighboring cities in the region. The hospital implemented its hospitalist program contracted through Em-Care in April of 2006 and has now changed services providers to Cogent. Both of these companies were highly recommended by the initial search committee and medical staff advisors.
What are the benefits of having hospitalists?
Caplan: The Emergency Department likes hospitalists because there is a doctor available in the hospital to see ED patients throughout the day and night. The alternative is to call a doctor out of his home or office practice, which can result in a delay in patient care, longer ER wait times and reduced patient satisfaction. The benefits of a well-run and staffed hospital service is having full-time inpatient care services, less variability in patient care, more timely discharges, improved documentation and more prompt inpatient consultation services. The traditional practice of medicine in this community without a hospitalist service results in some doctors working in excess of 110 hours a week.
Why do doctors become hospitalists?
DeChurch: I enjoy it; it’s a different type of medicine. It is more intense. To be in the hospital anymore, you have to be pretty sick. (A hospitalist) can truly help people.
Caplan: Doctors become hospitalists because they enjoy the challenges and intensity of hospitalized patients. They are highly trained and familiar with this patient type. Becoming a hospitalist removes a doctor from the obligation of running a private practice outside a hospital setting and provides good work hours and an improved lifestyle. The salary is also competitive compared to the traditional medical-based practice. Hospitalists generally work four 12-hour shifts a week or 16 total shifts a month.
How has the hospitalist program been accepted by the staff and patients at Danville Regional?
Caplan: The program has been accepted by most, but not all of the medical staff. (But) this is the trend throughout the country and not unique to Danville Regional. There are many doctors who use or want to use the hospital service as it grows to accommodate their hospitalized patients. These physicians are under personal, lifestyle, financial and practice pressure to focus their time to either hospital inpatient or clinical outpatient care but not both. (Caplan said patients initially had a reluctance to see a hospitalist, which he does not think is unusual because they have grown accustomed to the traditional care of seeing the same doctor inside and outside the hospital setting.) Sometimes the reluctance has come from a lack of understanding of what a hospitalist is or what role a hospitalist plays in the delivery of health care in coordination with their private doctor. Patients, however, come to realize that they still get good care, have access to specialists and stay only three to four days in the hospital with an average admission before being discharged. They also come to realize that they have much greater access to their private doctors outside the hospital due to the time that is freed up by the hospitalist.
Who are the patients the hospitalists see?
DeChurch: We admit all unassigned patients through the emergency room and those are without community physicians. From the time it is determined that the patient will be hospitalized, that patient becomes our responsibility as attending physicians. (Recently, the physicians with Internal Medicine Associates and Piedmont Internal Medicine decided to turn their inpatient care over to the hospitalists.)
What if a patient needs a specialist?
DeChurch: There will always be specialists available, such as surgeons, orthopedists and cardiology. A hospitalist is like a cruise director, making sure everything and everyone is where they need to be. We use consultants if a patient needs one.
How widespread is the use of hospitalists?
DeChurch: Hospitalists are found everywhere now. We interviewed someone (Monday) who is a hospitalist in a 25-bed hospital.
Caplan: The needs for hospitalists are greatly exceeded by the supply. Current statistics put the need for new hospitalists to serve the current national demand at 15,000 more doctors than are now available (with) need growing each year.
Who is DeChurch, and what hospitalist experience does she have?
Caplan: She is a nationally known and respected hospitalist leader with more than 15 years of hospitalist experience and eight years of experience as a hospitalist program director. Her leadership will add a great deal of quality and depth to the overall program. Her husband is Dr. Hugh Fraser, the medical director of the hospital’s blood donor center. She said she accepted the job at Danville Regional because “there is a certain atmosphere other hospitals don’t have, and the physicians were happy.” Dr. Frances DeChurch, was the Hospitalist Service Director at Annie Penn Hospital before coming to Danville.
What will she do first?
DeChurch: My main focus will be recruiting. Then come back in six months and see what I will fix. My job will be making sure we have a cohesive team and interfacing with the community, physicians and departments so people won’t think their doctors have abandoned them.

105 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you've run into these "hospitalists" at work then you know they are arrogant , with broken, difficult communication, and generally rude, unavailable and incompetent. And this is on a good day.
And the regular MD's that are still coming into DRMC DO NOT like them at all .

Anonymous said...

Are you an official spokesperson for "all the regular MD's"?

Anonymous said...

Good catch : allow me to rephrase:
...some MD's have been verbal or asked or readily made their opinions known on the floors,loudly.
And by the way I am my own spokesman , that's one of the largest problems with Danville the general populace, in my opinion, behave as a herd of sheep . Whatever one does several do.
If folks would make their thoughts and feelings known maybe some of this decades old ole' boy network could be destroyed and the lifepoint destruction of healthcare would stop.

sentinel event said...

"Dr. Fran DeChurch was hired last week to start working at the hospital as the director of the hospitalist program."

Judging by that line from the article, I would say that anyone who has a valid complaint about a hospitalist now has someone with whom to talk about the situation.

Let's just rephrase that:
Dr. Fran DeChurch: director, hospitalist program.

So, until Dr. DeChurch proves herself anything other than capable in this role, that should take care of non-specific ranting about hospitalists at DRMC, right?

sentinel event said...

Just as a further thought...if you have an issue with a hospitalist and your post on this blog does not begin with "I spoke with Dr. DeChurch but nothing happened", then perhaps you should think twice before hitting the 'publish' button.

Anonymous said...

Interesting that the local physician chosen to answer questions was the same one that brought in the hospitalists so that he did not need to take call at the hospital himself and then turned around and sold it off to Lifepoint. He had and has no clue as to what he has done and continues to this day with an arrogance that is unbelievable. How can he be a spokesperson when he has no further affiliation with the hospitalists or DRMC???

Anonymous said...

"and then turned around and sold it off to Lifepoint."

Please explain.

Anonymous said...

He was one of those who secretly met with the BOARD and decided that it would be best for Danville if the hospital was sold. He worked with them to travel to hospitals and corporate headquarters to interview potential buyers and made the case that the hospital should be sold. He gave the "medical credibility" to the idea of the sale, then bailed. Most doctors would NEVER have agreed to the sale

Anonymous said...

Gotcha...thanks for the clarification.

Anonymous said...

I guess the MD's have spoken , they're leaving at a breakneck pace.

Anonymous said...

Actually Caplan stonewalled a hospitalist program for the hospital when he was chief of the medical staff. DRMC was behind the trend in getting one established. I agree it was strange that he was interviewed. Fortunately the article was well-written and provided a good explanation of how a hospitalist program operates.

In more news, Dr. Murphy (neurosurgeon) is leaving Danville. She has accepted a job offer in Lynchburg and will start there in December. Wonder what her partner Dr. Singer will do?

The orthopedic doctors met with the new CEO last week about some of their concerns. There is talk that the orthopedists may very well give up their hospital privileges in January 2008.

The ENT doctors have reduced their hospital on-call schedule since Dr. Sharpe is now in Roanoke. It will be interesting to see what Dr. Meadema does once Dr. Williams departs next month.

The pulmonary and oncology doctors (O'Neill, Henderson, Bird, Brotherton, and Caldwell) currently share call between their practices. They also are considering their options regarding hospital privileges.

There could be a lot of changes at DRMC when the new year arrives. Will the hospitalists be able to handle an increased patient load? What will the new CEO do to address the physicians' dissatisfaction with DRMC?

Anonymous said...

LifePoint is bragging about their new director, Marguerite Kondracke. Please note that she is also a trustee at Duke University Medical Center.

What might that mean to DRMC?

Anonymous said...

It doesn't mean a thing. New Board Members are not chosen contingent to one hospital. I looked at teh web site. there was no bragging, just the standard fare of bio, past achievements, etc. Pretty vanilla announcement. The Duke position just happens to be something else she does.

Anonymous said...

Why are you being so negative? I thought it might mean that DRMC could get back on the Duke-approved list. If you can't be a part opf this team, get out!

Anonymous said...

Come on, the "hospitalists" are a joke....Ever see a labor pool standing around under a tree waiting for drive-by hires? That's all these people are. God help the innocent patient who falls into their hands. ER docs are quite different.

Anonymous said...

"Why are you being so negative?"

I didn't read the post above as being at all negative. The release is very neutral, typical 'so-and-so got named to the board' release fare.

She's on the Board of Visitors for the school of public policy and is a trustee for Duke University (not DUMC). Does anyone know how close that would make her to Duke University Medical Center?

Anonymous said...

Not at all. The two entities are run very separately. I doubt that the Medical center even entered the conversation.

Thanks for defending my post. I wasn't negative at all. It was just matter-of-fact.

Anonymous said...

As an observer, I thought it was pretty negative, and we have enough to worry about sans being negative. Adios!

Anonymous said...

Can't you people read? From the LifePoint statement:

Ms. Kondracke also serves on the Board of Trustees of Duke University and Duke University Medical Center.

Anonymous said...

As much as I'd like to think this is significant, I'm also convinced this is just happenstance. DRMC is not a large enough asset to warrant a Director appointmenr to assist with our problems. Just no way.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I agree. Besides, can we imagine anyone from the LPNT Board coming to our rescue?? Hardly!

Anonymous said...

Hmmmmm....skepticism seems to have reared its ugly head again.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering if the folks in Martinsville are having the same difficulties we are in Danville?

Anonymous said...

We have been receiving ortho/neuro patients at a steady rate to Moses Cone with larger volumes recently.
We were told that LPNT purchased Dr. Meadema's practice.
Any truth to this tale?

Anonymous said...

Don't fret about the Ortho docs. Remember they're always the first to whine to every new CEO who rolls into town.

Anonymous said...

"Can't you people read? From the LifePoint statement:"

Yes, I can read quite well...

http://www.dukemedicine.org/Leadership/Administration/Board

Her name doesn't show up on any DUMC or Duke medicine board listing...only on Duke University's. How or why LPNT listed DUMC in their press release I can't figure. So unless all of Duke's websites are out of date, the information below is probably the most accurate (from Duke's news site regarding her appointment to the university board):

"Kondracke is the president and chief executive officer of America’s Promise Alliance, founded by General Colin Powell. America’s Promise is the nation’s largest multi-sector collaborative dedicated to the well-being of children and youth. Before that, she served as special assistant to U.S. Sen. Lamar Alexander. She was also staff director for the Senate Subcommittee on Children and Families, where she focused on education, health care, social welfare and working families, particularly military families.

Kondracke co-founded and took public Corporate Family Solutions to provide better child care for parents through employer sponsorship. The company, now called Bright Horizons Family Solutions, is the nation’s largest provider of workplace care.

Kondracke currently serves on several boards, including the board of visitors at Duke’s Terry Sanford Institute of Public Policy."

Why we are spending so much time talking about a board member is interesting, considering we are on CEO number, what, 8 or 9?

Anonymous said...

Let's close one untruth right away guys, Dr. Meadema did NOT sell to Lifepoint and that is straight from him to me this morning. We are still an independent private practice.

Danville ENT is still here and still going to serve our patients to the very best of our ability. Yes, we will very much miss Drs. Sharpe and Williams. They are superb physicians that will bring wonderful things to their new homes in Roanoke and Georgia. To each of them we send our best wishes for much joy and success in the future.

Gene Jackson, PA-C
Danville ENT Associates

sentinel event said...

Gene,
Thanks for posting to dispel that rumor.

Anonymous said...

I think the biggest issue on the horizon is the impending lack of specialist care available for inpatients at DRMC. The hospitalists are not trained to provide critical care and the number of medicine and surgical subspecialists are dwindling quickly. Lifepoint will not be able to attract specialists to provide care either in the community or, as they have said before, solely for work within the hospital. They cannot afford to pay them as much money as would be required with the low volume of patients coming to DRMC for specialist care.

Anonymous said...

The specialist care is still available for inpatients. The hospitalists only need to request consults from the surgical/medical subspecialists. Unfortunately, the community continues to lose physicians.

Anonymous said...

And as stated before, the hospitalists are clueless as is lifepoint.

Anonymous said...

Heard from one of the physicians that LifePoint reduced Katrina Murphy's salary. She got a better offer in Lynchburg and took it. Also the new CEO Humphrey has pinned the label "malcontents" on some of the physicians. I quess he doesn't like it that they refuse to be "yes" men/women in regard to LifePoint's management of DRMC.

Anonymous said...

More marketing STUPIDITY from the worst corporation of all time , using the Enron playbook is all that's left.
To come in and try to reduce Her salary was a colossaly ignorant idea.
The idiots have run off 2 of the best and potentially long careered surgeons with TONS of marketing potential Murphy and McCann, these 2 particularly were outstanding to work with and are Incredible surgeons. How anyone can defend a "corporation" that puts pure money over fair profit and quality service is beyond me and generally everyone I work with and we see these MD's alot.
Anything that ends lifepoints deadly reign(and yes there "model" is leading to deaths) would be an improvement.

Anonymous said...

SO, here we go all over again with the new CEO.

Anonymous said...

I am sure that any intelligent CEO coming in will know the history of the place and the company he works for. I suspect there are some pretty significant performance clauses in Mr. Humphrey's contract. Lifepoint makes more money if there are more surgeries and more patients. That would be the goal of any for-profit company.
Taking a job here after the revolving door CEO policy would require a pretty juicy deal, maybe with a golden parachute, but certainly with the goal of making things better. At least give him a chance!

Anonymous said...

"Humphrey has pinned the label "malcontents" on some of the physicians"

"LifePoint reduced Katrina Murphy's salary"

Stttrrrriikkkeee 2 !

"any intelligent CEO coming in"

No intelligent CEO would work for lifepoint in the first place.

Strike 3 !

Anonymous said...

Maybe some of thosse malcontents were the same group of MDs that would never refer patients to Dr McCann in the first place! They cried out about the potential loss of the heart program while at the same time were referring patients out of town ...ALWAYS.

Anonymous said...

There are some physicians in the community who have always referred out of town, sometimes citing non-availability of specialist care (while it was actually present) in Danville. This sabotage has helped make it a reality. (Not excusing Lifepoint!) Now many will be forced to transfer several hours for Neurosurgery, Urology, ENT emergencies, Cardiac care and perhaps Orthopedics. Will these same docs ride the bus when they or their families need this care? How about the new CEO when he needs care? The only way for the town to really survive, and recruit new businesses, is to rebuild the specialty community. Lifepoint has stressed a commitment to this rebuilding; let's see it in action! BTW- Bank Boys-Have you seen the blunder you have forced upon us all, yet?? Even the Mighty Institute's director has bailed on this town. Created how many jobs?? Will you be having your health care in this community?

Anonymous said...

Dr. McCann was an employee of Duke Medical Center and was hired to work in Duke's cardiovascular program at DRMC. Duke "pulled out" of DRMC due to problems in dealing with LifePoint and the fact that DRMC was no longer a nonprofit hospital. Duke didn't have another job opportunity for McCann so he found a job in Utah.

Anonymous said...

Correct! and the reason the MD's send folks out of town was/is due to the overloaded ratios and the risks to the patients caused by lifepoint.lifepoint(and it's parent) has been cited in numerous articles as "dangerous" in regards to practice and staffing ,a general search is all it takes.
Remember the Accipiter group, threatening lifepoint due to their practices.

Anonymous said...

Re: Duke and Dr. McCann:

There are some inaccuracies with the previous post. Dr. McCann WAS offered a position with Duke at DUMC! He chose not to accept that position and instead choose to honor the offer from Utah. This was a difficult decision for Dr. McCann, who truly liked it here.

Additionally, Duke did not "pull out" per se. Lifepoint, at their behest, renogotiated both Duke's involvement and, more to the point, the fees paid to Duke.

Neither Duke nor Lifepoint now appear able to meet a middle ground. Nonetheless, it was Lifepoint who initiated the change in services provided by Duke and Dr. McCann was asked to stay on with Duke.

As for the comments regarding referrals being made out of town, well, those are correct.

Anonymous said...

I feel for the new CEOs family!!

Anonymous said...

LifePoint will be hard pressed to "rebuild" the medical/surgical speciality community. There are more medicine/surgery job opportunities than there are physicians to fill them in the USA. Any intelligent physician would not want to settle in an area with such a crappy hospital situation when there are plenty of better places to practice their area of expertise. Take a tally of the number of doctors who have left (and will soon be leaving) Danville and the number of new doctors that have arrived (either joined established groups or opened solo practices) in the past few years. You will find a very lopsided score.

Patients will continue to be referred out of town if fewer surgeons take emergency call or simply relinquish admitting priviliges at DRMC. The hospitalist program only handles medicine patients. For example, if the local orthopedists are no longer taking call (could be a reality in January) and someone arrives in the ER needing orthopedic surgery that patient will have to be transferred to another hospital. Dr. Carbone, the urologist, limits his oncall time. When he is off and a patient needing urology care comes to the ER that patient has to be transferred elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

lifepoints new corporate motto could be : Stupid is as stupid does and lifepoint does it well.

Anonymous said...

Wait, what , who.... ?
I see, LifePoint has adopted Danville's motto. I knew after time they would be molded into this community.

Anonymous said...

And you've been assimilated?
Danville has always been burdened with useless wealthy people that have No business sense , unless you call common thieves business sense.

Anonymous said...

I guess you could also call them the folks that make payroll for so many others.

Anonymous said...

Yeah low budget slave wages that have effectively oppressed Danville for decades and contributed to the Big fish in a little pond syndrome that these rich greedy selfish idiots want you to subscribe to so everyone will live in ignorant bliss while they whistle to the bank.
Most all of their fortunes are from their fathers or stolen from others.
Education is power and in this fight the fab five have walked into a hurricane of it.

Anonymous said...

Last time I checked the roads are actually paved in both directions in and out of Danville.

Entitlement and victim thinking rule.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, and "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", too.

Anonymous said...

Sure seems like no matter what SE posts as an original thought or news item, the postings always "de-volve" into things like this. Seems we could accomplish the same by just calling this the whining and moaning blog.

Anonymous said...

We didn't start this war , we just plan to finish it.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like a whining and bitching session as opposed to making any concrete suggestions to make things better. "getting rid of Lifepoint" isn't a real option either. With census high, rooms full, and overhead low, "they ain't going nowhere yet."

D.H. Johnson

Anonymous said...

I don't call doing 11 to 14 surgeries a day high census when we used to do 35 to 40. Also don't call opening the amount of beds that can be handled by staff as being "full" either. Travelers are the highest paid nurses in country and I don't call that low overhead.

Anonymous said...

What troubles me is the opening of the new DRMC expansion. If the hospital is already "short-staffed", how in the world can another floor be sufficiently staffed? Can someone tell me what will go on the floor currently housing telemetry patients?

Anonymous said...

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) - Rhode Island Hospital has been fined $50,000 and reprimanded by the state Department of Health after its third instance this year of a doctor performing brain surgery in the wrong side of a patient's head.
"We are extremely concerned about this continuing pattern," health department director David R. Gifford said in a statement Monday.
The hospital issued a statement saying it was re-evaluating its training and policies, providing more oversight, giving nursing staff the power to ensure procedures are followed, among other steps.
The most recent case happened Friday when the chief resident started operating on the wrong side of an 82-year-old patient's brain, the health department said. The patient was OK, the health department and hospital said.
In February, a different doctor performed neurosurgery on the wrong side of another patient's head, said Andrea Bagnall-Degos, a health department spokeswoman. That patient was also OK, she said.
In August, however, a patient died a few weeks after a third doctor operated on the wrong side of his brain. The death prompted the state to order the hospital to take a series of steps to ensure such a mistake would not happen again, including an independent review of its neurosurgery practices and better verification from doctors of surgery plans.
The hospital is owned by Lifespan, a not-for-profit corporation. It serves as a teaching hospital for Brown University.
And here we all thought not-for-profits and teaching hospitals were so good. hmmmmm....

Anonymous said...

First of all census is not high , every night RN's are sent home or put on call because out of 300+ beds only 75 to 150 are full.
Surgeries are about 20% of what they were(ie, no backs, a tenth of the hearts, no crani's,etc.)
Next,
"What troubles me is the opening of the new DRMC expansion."
It's not an expansion 3B is merely being moved from one area to another.So that instead of treating sick patients in a single patient room they will now be doubled up aiding in the spread of MRSA,VRE,ESBL,meningitis....
This also actually will cause a delay for flow to/from ICU and ER as the distance away from xray and ER will now be even further.
As for low overhead, not even close , Travel nurses are the most expensive, period. They average 2-3 times what a regular nurse makes ,even considering "benefits" and they generally have contract stipulations on the amount of patients they can have so while the other nurses are struggling to keep up with 8:1 ratios the traveler may only have 4.
Life points overhead is WAY higher than DRMC's ever was the salaries for the "O" alone is 100's of times higher . And don't forget bonuses and stocks.

Anonymous said...

Neither for or not for profit excuses the "time out " procedures that were not used in the RI cases,
That was the fault of a careless MD and OR staff disregarding the Country wide mandated"timeout" procedure.
There will be these kinds of MD's everywhere, just not for long..

Anonymous said...

From what I've seen ICU hasn't been even near "full census" since lifepoint.They were 2to1 and now lifepoint constantly pushing 3:1.
DANGEROUS.
Pre lifepoint wintertime was 18 patients everyday mostly now about 5 or 6.
I think they had 3 or 4 patients the other day and the heart program is probably going bye bye.

Anonymous said...

I wish someone would tell all of us readers the honest, unbiased truth regarding DRMC. There are so many opinions, speculations, etc., and all I want to know is the absolute truth. I am not interested in rivalry between people, harsh words; I just want the truth when we talk about Danville's one and only hospital!! Please, someone, clear all these uncertain and frighten feelings. Let the public and paying customers know the truth! After all, this is the hospital we have all counted on for so many years.

Truly, things have not always been perfect, but it is very frightening to me to think Danville is losing so many fine physicians and dedicated staff. The "strangers" in our facility really stress me out. They have no true interest in our hospital (hospitalists/traveling clinical staff/administration) and will be here today and gone tomorrow. But, we as citizens of our communities will still be here. This is our home.

Anonymous said...

It is truly a sad situation there compared to times past. There are still exellent staff at DRMC, but they have been put in a very bad situation. As far as finding out the "truth" the mass exodus should give you every thing you need to know.

Anonymous said...

"Mass exodus," we want to know.

Anonymous said...

You want to know, just go and talk to the employee's still there about all the good staff and doctors that have left or forced to leave the past two years, or at least get your head out of the sand.

Anonymous said...

""Mass exodus," we want to know"

I'm still there , have been through it all, the 5 that sold it should be prosecuted for reckless endangerment of a community.

It is that bad , I have seen so many people and physicians leave , all good ones with HUGE potentials .
I've seen DUKE whittle the heart's to nothing in disgust.
The excellent heart surgeon leave , a wonderful and talented neurosurgeon leave , surgeons ,on and on.
I have seen sick patients check out leave and have someone drive them to another facility due to lifepoint mandating that they pay 10k before treatment.
So many RN's have gone I can't even count.
Understaffing grids pushed onto the charge nurses, ratios as high as 14:1 with 8:1 being chronic.
ICU at 3:1 with no reserve which is extremely dangerous.
I am leaving very soon myself, I cannot risk my license and dignity any further.
The real truth is lifepoint is not in this for the community at all. After useless meetings of spin, threats of firings daily and still. I rode out the supposed "transition phase" and I will tell you lifepoint is a mis-managed company that has no business in healthcare, what we had was leaps and bounds over this deathtrap.
It must be returned to non-profit for Danville and surrounding facilities to be able to support it and to regain it's all important educational affiliations.

Anonymous said...

Knifepoint has continued to suck the life out of the nurses that are still trying to provide patient care to the best of their ability. It's sad when you are trying to do right by the patients, but no supports you in your endeavors.

--Warren

Anonymous said...

That's about as truthful as it can get.

Anonymous said...

I would like to see a roll call of all who have left. What would it look like in the Register and Bee if a list was published of Physicians who left, physicians who gave up priveleges, and a dept. by dept. list of (if names would be improper) the numbers of nurses and staff who have left? I think that in itself would speak volumes to the people of the area.

ie. ICU has lost x number of nurses.
Pain clinic lost x number of nurse.
Environmental services lost x number of staff.
Followed by a list of physicians who have left.
Followed by a list of physicians who have given up hospital priveleges.


Steve

Anonymous said...

Physician on 2005 Staff Directory now gone or decided to retire or have anounced they are leaving(in other words, those who left in last 2 years):

Anesthesia:
Babiera
Lin

CV Surgery:
McCann

General Surgery:
Brown
Guanzon

Hem/Onc:
Sharp

Medicine/Family Practice:
Caplan
Davidson
Harvie
Hickson
Jones
Kunnen
Pradam
Thompson
Willimas
Von Elton

Nephrology:
Maddux F
Maddux D

neurology:
Nelson

neurosurgery:
Poulos
Murphy

Occupational medicne:
Moll

Orthopedics:
Cassidy
Cheung

ENT:
Gillespie
Sharpe
Williams

Pathology:
Turner
Estevez

Plastic Surgery:
Swank

Psychiatry:
Burgbacher
Patel PC

Spine Surgery:
Cohen

Urology:
Kozlowsky
Andrews is winding down but not left yet

Vascular surgery:
Levine

That is about 36 who quit practicing at the drmc.
Otoole was a Pain Doc with Cohen, he left town also becasue of the effect from the hospital

Rumor is that is not all and there are others ready to leave also.

Anonymous said...

When you question how many staff members have left don't just think nurses. Think of all the ancilliary and support departments. lab, radiology,education, pharmacy, etc etc. the brain drain is on a number of levels, experiene, education, historical knowledge...

HR has never published a clear turn over rate of staff. Tha tinformation would also be damaging. For example I think we celebrated 20 plus new nurses starting in may..how many decided to stay?

as for the list of doctors above...is there a way to figure a percentage of the number who were on staff prior to lifepoint to quantify how many have left.

Anonymous said...

Again...i don't work for LifePoinnt, but could tell me what good all this numerical work and "publishing" will do, when we have bigger problems to solve? Let's accept it for what it is, knowing that it has sucked and get on to fixing.

Anonymous said...

The Medical Staff Action Committee met last night and the new Chief of Nursing was in attendance. She acknowledged the nursing staff level is too low. She also admitted the current 3:1 ratio in the ICU is unacceptable (should be 2:1 or 1:1). At least she recognizes that something needs to be done. One has to wonder is she can resolve the situation given the large exodus of nurses since LifePoint purchased DRMC.

Anonymous said...

The new CNO can recognize the problems as much as she wants, the thing is, she needs to have a plan to fix these issues.

--Warren

Anonymous said...

We, the RN's recognized the problem would need to be fixed before it ever happened , the reason, unlike the fab 5, some of us immediately did a little quick research on lifepoint and easily found out their roots and operational strategy which is basically find a small area hospital and destroy it while sucking the money out of it.
I agree with the previous about the CNO she has already dodged meetings when the buzz or previous q&a session was too tough.
She only recognizes the problem because the staff(all levels)informed her of them quite vocally.
lifepoint is all lip service.
Ex. the newspaper headline of the 6th floor- yes more beds, but they are double rooms(as if MRSA,VRE and ESBL are not already a problem) not single rooms , I promise you lifepoint will increase the ratio on those nurses and not increase the staff, lifepoint has done this too many times before.
The sad thing is lifepoint made it appear as if they were increasing capacity,actually (+10beds but not 46 as it appears) they have not, they have just made it easier for lifepoint to increase the ratio on the nurses , which as we all know is more dangerous ..more spin, lies, and lip service.
And I say if there is a benefactor in the community that would like to show the lifepoint lie for what it is, publish the names of the physicians who have gone and maybe even where they have gone in the Danville Register Bee,also get an informant to get the number of the nurses and staff that have left or been removed because of lifepoint . It would be impossible for lifepoint to rebutt that

Anonymous said...

To the previous poster, yes I too have been vocal for a while now about the danger involved with the nurse patient ratios without avail. Now all of a sudden, the CNO "recognizes" the situation.

It's interesting, she hasn't recognized it before when her flunkies kept sending patients up to the floor without proper nursing care (i.e nurse patient ratios). We would voice our concern and the AD's response was essentially, "Tough."

I heard someone saying that where they were going had set ratios and if you had to go above that then you got an incentive pay.

--Warren

Anonymous said...

I want to post a letter about some dealings I've recently had with the hospital, but am not sure how to do it without posting it as a response to one of the blogs already on the main page. How do I get my future letter to Danville Register & Bee on here?

Anonymous said...

"I heard someone saying that where they were going had set ratios and if you had to go above that then you got an incentive pay."
I hadn't heard that. Hmmmm
Still unacceptable , so much research shows that as the ratio goes up so does the mortality.
Don't want to let a payoff be acceptable for the life of family and friends. google or yahoo it.

Anonymous said...

Did someone drop some meat in the water? The Sharks are feedng again. What a pitiful frenzy.

Anonymous said...

"Don't want to let a payoff be acceptable for the life of family and friends."

Are you kidding me? I just stated that they had set ratios, but they HAD to go above (and it wasn't likely) that they would be receive incentive pay.

Sometimes there are times when acuity is low, where an additional patient can be added without compromising care. And then you are going receive incentive pay for that? Come on. It isn't common for them to go above their set ratios.

Look at here, there are no set ratios and if they go above acceptable standards, they don't get incentive either.

Somewhere else has got it together, and leaps and bounds better than here.

--Warren

Anonymous said...

Actually I was agreeing it's just that If you give lifepoint an inch they will take a mile as there are no criteria for acuity and it seems they have taught the hospitalists how to grade pt's to make them fit any floor even if they don't .
I just think a "bonus" for risking a license (or life)is not acceptable and you're right, plenty of places have DRMC beat in spades.

Anonymous said...

"I just think a "bonus" for risking a license (or life)is not acceptable."

At least they are thinking about a way to compensate their employees for having to do something more than the usual. From what I understand, they don't go above their numbers, because they're willing to hire agency people to come in and help out during "sick season."

--Warren

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure who told you that but it is not true.
lifepoint is constantly "above numbers" if you consider ratios at double the acceptable rate for surrounding facilities and the ratios of the former DRMC and the Nation
They are hiring travel nurses because the ratios and working conditions are so bad that all of the staff and MD's are leaving.
Even some of the travelers have cancelled their contracts early and some companies now won't even send their nurses.
One particular floor pre-lifepoint had 42 RN's plus other staff and everyone was working overtime to keep up, now with lifepoint there are 12 remaining and hardly any patients and most of the auxillary staff are gone, the ratio is still high but the census is gone ,just like the reputation and quality of DRMC.
Believe me I work there and am leaving soon. Census is down as the only patients coming to DRMC now are the one who cannot make it to another facility.
lifepoint destroyed this hospital and with danville's leadership and history it may never recover, $5.50 an hour jobs won't do it.

Anonymous said...

Six nurses on 3B (soon to be the old telemetry floor) have given notice and will be leaving DRMC. As LifePoint celebrates the opening of the 6th floor (the new cardiac wing) the nurse attrition continues. How can the hospital administration quarantee adequate patient care with fewer and fewer nurses?

Anonymous said...

They can't and they haven't since buying(stealing) DRMC from the community.
Congratulations to the 6 nurses life will now improve for them.

Anonymous said...

Correction : they didn't buy it from the community. They bought it from 5 thieves who sold something that they didn't own, out from under the community that built it.
My error.

Anonymous said...

"I want to post a letter about some dealings I've recently had with the hospital, but am not sure how to do it without posting it as a response to one of the blogs already on the main page. How do I get my future letter to Danville Register & Bee on here?"

Lorien,
You can submit your letter via e-mail to Sentinel Event (blogmaster) at drmcanon@hotmail.com

Anonymous said...

six nurses are leaving 3B.n Do they even six left. I left a number of months ago and the havoc that was happening on that floor over the last year is huge. Two incompetent managers were placed. No organized educaiton or support of new staff. The heart surgeons for two years have not trusted htis unit to place their patients. The incompetence in managing this unit are huge not just fromthe director level but from above. Again find a quality, educated, knowledgable nursing director. Stop pulling form the stagnant pool you have and create an environment where smart professionals wish to work. Don't create an environment of lies, scare tactacs and disrespect.

Anonymous said...

"create an environment of lies, scare tactics and disrespect."
This is lifepoints whole operational motto.

Anonymous said...

"Again find a quality, educated, knowledgable nursing director. Stop pulling form the stagnant pool you have and create an environment where smart professionals wish to work."


Afraid this DISEASE is not isolated to 3B / telemetry.

Anonymous said...

Why is it they don't seem to be able to find quality replacements? They did well with outside recruits in other non nursing departments. But for some reason RUTHless seemed to find trust in the worst individuals to fill director positions. Is it because these people say what administration wants to hear whether truth or not?

Anonymous said...

Well, you nailed it....or at least if the candidate doesn't have the skillset or knowledge base, they will probably look to the "senior" manager ( maybe RUTHless at one point) for guidance.

Anonymous said...

We had heard that Ruthless is no longer at the hospital??? Is this true??

Anonymous said...

RUTHless' damage will long outlive her tenure in Danville. She drove away qualified, strong practitioners at all levels and appointed many who all knew had no skill set or interpersonal skills to get the job done. Sadly, the damage will live on for a long long time.

Anonymous said...

Hear JCAHO is visiting again, any truth?

Anonymous said...

oh yes dear....they are here.

Anonymous said...

To the poster questioning how many of the listed physicians were pre-LifePoint: try 99-100%.

To the poster questioning why we need to know all these numbers: numbers are used in every business to calculate how well it is performing or if there are problems creating an underperformance. Numbers represent a historical footprint. A future cannot be achieved unless you know how the history got you to today.

Anonymous said...

Heard thatJoint Com.arrived this AM and there was no ADMIN.bigwig on the scene even though patients were being moved to the "Tower"during the "wee hours" of the AM.

Anonymous said...

So...what do you expect? Administrators are not blue collar workers!

Anonymous said...

The ones there are not much of anything really.

Anonymous said...

JC came in response to a patient or staff complaint. Remember all we have the right to call them anytime with our concerns. Either phone or over the internet. This can be completely anonymous if you are afraid you will punished.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the origin of the complaint?

Anonymous said...

Has every bed been moved to the "tower"? What is left in the J bldg or B bldg?

Anonymous said...

Th good news is that even though JC will still visit, they can also smell an worthless employee commplainnt a mile away. What a waste of time for those of us that ARE trying to make a difference.

Anonymous said...

Employee complaints are not worthless tell that to the Hatcher Center employees who are proud of their acheivements only to have lifepoint degrade them so a few people could continue to get wealthier.

anonymous said...

keep it up!

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